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I have a US Coast Guard documented, US flagged, VtAT paid to the Dutch, Post-Construction Assessment surveyed by the Dutch. I am a US citizen with a permanent resident visa for Germany. What impediments will the Greeks offer me if I want to take an annual berth in one of their marinas?
See https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/view/documents/ – unlimited transit log. This should apply to you. As a German resident you should also not have any problems with Schengen, so it seems little impediments. Be sure to check with Greece Customs on arrival.
Just checking it’s still possible to transit Chalkiss / Khakis Bridge. We are planning to go through around 20 Sept 2025. Understand the wait times and the some of the complexities of waiting.
See https://olne.gr/en/ for the latest bridge status. Do send us updates once you have transited!
Does anyone have a telephone or Whats App number for the harbormaster at Agios Kirikos Marina outside of Pythagorus harbor? I would like to book a reservation there. Is depth sufficient for 2.5m?
Harry i was just there and the number is in Navily (if you havent got the app – GET IT)
in fact most ports / Marinas in greece are now using Whatsapp as a means of contact for booking
**ATTENTION LEFKADA FLOATING BRIDGE ACCESS CLOSED **
The floating bridge that connects Lefkada (Greece) to the mainland is now officially closed to boat traffic and there is no reopening date as of this post. If your sail plans include crossing the Lefkas channel to transit between Preveza/Corfu, etc and the Ionian Islands (Lefkada, Ithaca, Meganisi, etc), you will need to sail on the west side of Lefkada island.
This website has incredible information. It would be great to insert any available info regarding the VAT status of a non-EU vessel when staying longer than 185 days in Greece though. Folks can apply for the 12 month Visa as stated in this section already, however, when staying longer than 6 months, some ports have advised the captain/crew are considered “Habitual Residents of a Europen Country”, which then triggers possible issues with the vessel no longer being eligible for temporary importation. Does Temporary residency (as granted with long stay visas/temporary residence permit) over-ride the provisions of the TA rules? https://www.aade.gr/en/greeks-abroad-non-residents/private-pleasure-boats/special-procedure-temporary-importation-private-pleasure-boats-greece
I diverted into Agios Nikalaos whilst en route to Malta. Clearing in was difficult. I applied for the Tepai online whilst at sea but couldnt pay for it. The transit log I thought was ok to applt for on arrival. However I arrived to clear in on Easter Saturday. Port police and immigration open but Customs shut until Tuesday. In the end payment of the Tepai was ok at Customs but as I had not applied for the transit log online before arrival I was fined 300 euroes for the 29.50 euro transit log.
I think the text in formalities should be altered to highlight this issue.
Mark. SY Aliana
Hi all just an update to E transit log . ok so i hve this now and its good .. BUT the port police still need something to stamp .. so you have to print the whole log out and take it to them with your insurance , crew lists, etepai paid and boat registration . they kind of left the port police out of the equasion. if you ever have visited them you will see its kind of like .. back to the 60s .. BUT dont get me wrong they have a big job to do (and important one) keeping ports safe so stamping foreigners transit logs are pretty low priorty.
Unsure if this is a new rule, or simply a local interpretation that I am running up against.
When applying for an Unlimited Transit Log (EU VAT paid 2003, with original invoice as evidence of VAT payment; private owners with EU flag since then).
However Lefkas customs officials say that since 2024 they now only accept a T2L document (specifically, via the new Proof of Union Status (PoUS) system) as evidence of EU Union Status. They pointed me to Article 199 of Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2015/2447 as evidence of this rule.
However, it seems you can only register and use PoUS if you have an EORI (Economic Operators Registration and Identification). And you can only get an EORI if you own/operate a VAT registered company within the EU.
There seems to be an easier pathway for UK residents/flagged vessels, where the RYA will help you apply for a T2L. However, I am not a UK resident and my yacht was never UK flagged.
Has anyone had experience with this, or found an agency that was able to assist with PoUS/T2L?
This requirement for either a T2L or an official Customs Document with a MRN number is getting more widely spread in Greece it seems. If the yacht owner only has invoices or other evidence of payment, it will depend on the discretion of the TL handler (customs officer) to accept this proof or not. It appears in most cases they will issue a 30-day TL until approval of the VAT status of the yacht has been obtained.
A Customs Broker can help you get a T2L. It’s also quite possible there are ports that are more “yacht-friendly” – at the moment Leros and Kalimnos in the Dodecanese and Corfu and Cefalonia in the Ionian seem to be less complicated.
Dear ED, any news item from Michael Roditis about the e TL ?
mentioned in the greece updates page?
This was thier response when i tried ro reach out to them
I am very sorry but we provide with all the detailed information only our clients
Hi Richard, the e-TL is becoming mandatory in some places (i.e. you can’t apply for a TL on arrival). We’ve just had a report from a yacht clearing into Agios Nikalaos who was fined 300 Euros for not applying online for the TL in advance of arrival. It seems the application form is not that straightforward and some of it is in Greek – so even though the e-TL was introduced to make things simpler, that’s not really the case. Using an agent if your situation is slightly more complicated, may well be a wise approach right now as requirements are tightening up, and they can help smooth all the pre-arrival requirements etc.
I have a question for other forum participants about the Greek Cruising Tax. Specifically, making online payments. I have the payment details from the harbour master’s office and a coast guard official helped me register and get a reference number. But when I attempt a bank transfer, the payments bounce back. The receiving bank (I’ve double checked the details with the port authorities) decline to accept the funds. I have tried this via 2 different banks where I have euro accounts, but with the same result. Barclays even told me they thought the receipient was a fraudster!
I met a couple of other sailors in Kalamata who have had similar problems.
Does anyone here have any advice / tips. I understand the fines for non-payment can be quite steep.
There is step by step guide by Chris Robbs – linked to here – https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/view/fees/
An agent can also assist with payment – see https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/view/clearance-agents/ and click on related businesses. If you have filled in all the necessary details and it’s just the payment that is proving tricky – then using an agent could be a convenient and quick solution.
Do let us know how you get on.
Most of the time i just paid the customs lady in cash when checking in (got the reciept of course) .. online payments i just didnt trust as never clear i went through. last time i was checking out and i had paid the full month of Sept but i was 1 day into October ,, guess what they made me pay another month .. yes but in this instance i need my boat yard lady (very kind of Aigli) to do the online transfer for me as i had no choice becuse the customs lady said she cannot take a cash payment 1 day after it was due otherwish she would need to fine me (400 eu i think) … so just FYI
The FAQ and guide says to use 20 digits, all numbers. However when searching for making eParavolo payments, a different and more up to date Greek admin FAQ said to use the 25 digit payment code starting with RF.
So that is what I used for the bank transfer as a payment reference, and it worked.
Great intel, thanks for sharing! Can you give us the link for the up to date Greek Admin FAQ you found please.
hi has anyone tried to the the digital logbook ,, i tried many times it just gives error .. but all information is entered correctly
Anyone done it – tried it ? usual online issues for Greece but if it can work will save hours
Yes I tried the digital logbook. And the next day I got both an email and call from customs that I need to go to their office. Once I went there we followed the old school method. That happened November 2024
Thanks Zirinis !!! im going to try again ,,
everyone i ask in greece that tecnically should know just say .. they dont know about it 🙁
Dear ED, any news item from Michael Roditis about the e TL ?
mentioned in the greece updates page?
I am an Irish citizen who owns and cruises on a British flagged yacht in Greece. My partner ( not married to me) operates a Canadian and British passport and is currently subject to the 90/180 Schengen limitation. She flies in and visits for extended periods. Can I sign her on to my crew list (Preveza/Corfu) and get her stamped out of greece to stop the clock running on her 90/180 visa days? Our aim is to cruise until later in the year. I would then sign her off the boat and back into ‘Europe’ ( Corfu) before she flies back out of Europe.
Would welcome any sage advice or manageable lower risk options to implement.
TIA
Daniel
We would like to move our boat (polish flag) from Turkey to Greece. Looking for marina close to Athens for 1 year contract. Any suggestions and also tips re formalities would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
John
Jgeecon@gmail.com
Hi John, recommend you read through https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/view/clearance/ and all the formalities sections.
Important Note for Polish-flagged yachts: Greek Customs requires that every yacht which is entering in Greek Waters under Polish Flag should refer to Customs in order to prove its VAT Status. In the event that the yacht is No-VAT Paid, it will then be handled as Non-EU (see below) and will be issued with a 30-day Transit Log (within the same year). See news item for details.
Not sure what nationality you are – but if not EU recommend you read https://www.noonsite.com/cruising-resources/european-union/
Re. marinas close to Athens – this document may give some insight as to places owners have left their boats for the winter in Greece. There are a few noted there close to Athens – https://www.noonsite.com/report/wintering-in-the-mediterranean/. More info. on the individual ports pages on Noonsite.
Just to assist anyone filling in the eTapi online the 20 digit number is not the FR… 25 digit number it is in fact the adminastrative fee code which is 20 numerical characters long. Took me 2 attempts to get this right, they just bounce back your transfer if incorrect. It shows up as paid on your account once completed.
Hi i have filled in the eTapi details for my boat but dont understand how i pay the fee? the bank details seem to be not for Greece if its an online bank transfer. Has anyone succesfully navigated this payment?
Hi Neal, please use the recommended CA guide to applying for and paying the Tepai in the links section below the explanation of eTepai in fees – https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/view/fees/. This is still current and extremely helpful as it gives you a step by step guide. The AADE website also has good guidance in English. Let us know how you get on.
I just pay at any post office and get a reciept.
Hi there, we are looking to Sell a few boaty things outboard motor, stainless steel folding bikes! We are in Preveza any ideas of forums we can sell things on ?
Hi Jo, best place to ask is the Med Cruisers Facebook page – https://www.facebook.com/groups/MedSailing/1143682492480737/
I am sure there must be a Preveza Cruisers Facebook page as it’s such a popular spot with foreign yachts.
Do let us know what you find out and we can add the info. to Noonsite. Good luck!
Hola, llevo navegando en Grecia 5 años, y varias veces y recientemente en Calkcis Evia puente de Chalkis, en la zona de amarre cerca dwl ayuntamiento, hubo varios robos, 2022 y 2023 y entradas en veleros con los ocuoantes en el interior. La mayoría de noche cuando duermen los propietarios, abren la puerta y de adentran en el barco y roban todo lo que está a la vista. La policía lo sabe pero no hace nada. Es importante avisar a los tates que cierren puertas no dejen objetos fuera. Si dispones de algún método disuasorio emplea.
Saludos.
Quick translation into English: This sailor reports that he has sailed 5 years on Greece and many times recnetly at the Chalkis bridge, Evia, at the berthing zone close to the council offices there have been various burglaries (2022 and 2023). They broke into the boats, mostly at night when the owners were sleeping, they opened the door and entered the boat stealing anything they could see. The police know this is happening but don’t do anything. It’s important to close your doors and don’t leave anything outside on deck or out on the chart table etc.
Hello, we are a French flagged boat that needs to clear out of Corfu before entering Montenegro.
I haven’t been able to find any information on the site about the procedure to do this. Can anyone point me in the right directions or provide the correct information?
Thanks, JR
Hi JR,
Go to the Corfu port page and click on the “i” icon, then go to the clearance section.
See https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/ionian/corfu-port-corfu/view/clearance/
Sue
Hoping for clarification on the VAT rules for a non-EU resident looking to purchase a vessel in Greece.
If the vessel is already EU VAT paid is it correct that upon purchase and re-flagging to a non EU country, no further VAT is due and the vessel can remain in the EU indefinitely?
Whereas, if we purchase a non-VAT paid vessel and reflag it to a non-EU country we would then be operating within the confines of the Temporary Import rules and can only keep the vessel in the EU for 18 months after which VAT would be due?
We understand the Shengen Shuffle as it relates to crew time in the EU, but not what difference the VAT status of a vessel potentially makes to the vessel’s ability to remain in the EU for a non-EU owner.
Thanks for any help clarifying this for us.
We recommend you speak with a few Greek yachting agents and ask this question. You will need to find one who can assist you in making the right decision about re-flagging in Greece, VAT etc. https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/view/clearance-agents/
We need some help with our status. We have a VAT paid boat and are currently in Italy. Boat was bought last year in Italy. We have proof of VAT paid and that the boat was in the EU on the 31st of Dec 2021.
Boat is flagged UK since June this year. I am EU citizen. My wife is non-EU citizen but has a resident permit.
What are the requirements and will Greece consider us to have a VAT paid boat?
Please review this page:
https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/view/clearance/
I am not an expert, however, as your boat is flagged UK (i.e. non-EU) and you the skipper are EU – you fall into the category of being granted just one month only in Greece (a one month transit log).
I asked Roditis Yachting Agency, and Michalis there said it would be best to make pre-arrangements with a Customs broker (or agent) for an unlimited transit log prior to arrival, otherwise Customs will only grant you 30 days.
Unfortunately, when it comes to UK Flag yachts, agents are not keen on getting into conflict with customs – https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/view/clearance-agents/
Do let us know how you get on, thanks.
Here is our story after more then 7 months cruising. Upon arrival in Corfu we set out to get all the documents which is pretty straightforward. Don’t know the costs but it was around 40 or 50 euro for the log, crewlist, etc. I got indeed for 30 days only. I was told in no unclear terms that we had to leave Greece with the boat for a min. of 1 year before returning again. Alternatively I could have proposed my wife as user (Filipina with Schengen visa) but she had no license. My wife could have gotten 6 months. All officers were nice and friendly, but formal.
We had a great time and were lucky that the passage thru the Corinth Canal was extended allowing us to pass through in Oct/Nov days before shutting down. After almost 1 month we arrived in Patmos from where we were to go to Turkey. However upon arrival we were told by the harbour lady that extending our cruise was no issue. We paid thru an agent the same as upon arrival + 100 euro for the agent. All docs reissued but this time my wife was the user. No questions asked. Her passport got stamped as if she just arrived in Schengen. The new cruising log was for 18 months. But we were told that we could only stay for another 6 months. Again, we had a great cruising time all over the place with a 2,5 months berth in Heraklion for the winter (just 8 euro/d).
Fast forward we are now back in the Western part to leave. Here, upon checking with the port police there is no issue staying longer then 6 months. In other words we can stay here another 12 months until the cruising log is expired.
We never had any issues. All authorities were great. We had a great time here. We love Greece and the people.
One thing: even though our boat measures 12.7m we always did our tepai as 12m. It saves hugely in cost and was never an issue wherever we stamped.
Hope this helps others.
I always visit customs and then the port police each time i take my boat from LEROS (as a non EU boat and Non EU owner) , and do the reverse when coming back. at each island i visit i try (yes i really tried) to visit the port police. on some islands the Port police said to me no need if crusing and staying with greece, at others they said they had no idea why i was trying to do this. its a silly thing and i dont know why this is being enforced (may be something about illegal immgrants) but i think in your case they (the port Police) look very closely at where you came from, in your case Turkey. If you speak to the lovely lady at Leros customs she will confirm that you need to get is stamped by the port police at every island you visit. so ill always try. and maybe keep a ships log note about it (like in the case where they dont stamp or there was no office)
I entered Symi from Turkey in a none EU Registered boat. I went through the normal immigration process and was issued a transit log that was stamped in; but crucially not stamped out before I visited other Greek islands. I had my boat hauled out on Leros and was fined E250 by Leros (Laki) Port Police for 1. Not having booked out of Symi and2. Not visiting other Port Police on the other islands that I visited even though I was at anchor, and there were none nearby. At Leros Cutoms I was advised, that as a holder of a none EU transit log I should book in at Port Police on every island visited even if staying at anchor, and that the only exception to this rule is visits to Islands without them. Wonder if it’s still worth brining none EU registered boats to explore the Greek Islands? Often a visit to Port Police can take in excess of 2 hours. Leros Port Police hold my record- half a day, the time it takes to complete the paper work for a fine!
Thanks Chris for the feedback. Yes, since June 2022, the Transit Log officially has to be presented to the Port Master’s Office to be stamped in every port visited. The PP are obliged to check if yachts have had their TL’s/crew lists stamped and the standard penalty is 500 Euros (so looks like you were lucky!).
This is some great information. However, despite reading through the AADE-linked document, I’m still unsure about what I will need to do. I am buying a VAT-paid boat in France. Since I’m not an EU citizen I will be flagging the vessel either as US or UK (I have dual citizenship). On entry into Greece with the boat will I need a Transit Log? It will be a non-EU-flagged vessel with a non-EU owner/captain, but will be EU-VAT paid so not subject to customs/importation requirements. At least that is my understanding, Which should mean a TL isn’t necessary since the vessel is already tax-paid. Or am I missing something?
Hello Andrew. I have been speaking with Michalis of Roditis Yachting Agency in Rhodes. He tells me in relation to your query:
A Non-EU Flag Yacht is issued a Transit Log.
If it will be flagged from an EU to Non-EU Flag, it is considered Export and the VAT – as far as Greece is concerned – is lost, unless in Greece before the yacht departs the EU. If the yacht is in Greece when the flag is changed, the owner can request UTL (Unlimited Transit Log).
In some cases this is granted.
Therefore, if you intend to cruise in Greece for a long period of time (bearing in mind a normal transit log gives you 18 months), then this could be the best way forward.
https://www.noonsite.com/business/roditis-yachting-agency/
Dear Sue,
Thank you so much for taking the time to find this out for me. I have reached out to Michalis for assistance with this. Since we will be based in Samos having to use a TL and get stamped in to every island would be incredibly inconvenient. The reason we chose a VAT-paid boat was to avoid being considered an duty-free boat!
Thank you again!
Hi Andrew, you’re welcome, I’m glad the info. was helpful. Perhaps once you have everything sorted, you could write a short report for us about your experience and the hoops you had to jump through to achieve what you wanted. I am sure there are many other cruisers in your position wondering how to proceed. I am also interested as to how you intend to deal with the Immigration side of things (Schengen) being a third country national. All the very best with the next steps.
Hi brilliant site!
Some feedback. I find it difficult to locate ports to check out. I’d suggest links, for example, included where clearance info is provided. Thank you
You can find links to all the sections of ports and countries using the icons under the title.
The “i” icon opens a panel with links to every section. The “checklist” icon opens a panel, which has links to all formalities, including clearance. The “anchor” incon links to all ports.
You will also find links at the bottom of each section leading to the next section.
We have a Turkish flagged boat and earlier this year found Harbour Masters unwilling to stamp our transit log, notably in Milos. This is not unusual as regulations are often “interpreted “ and implemented as HM sees as appropriate. Fortunately we had no problem checking out as using an Agent in Chios and well known there.
Also we stayed mostly at anchor and only entered harbours for shopping and water or occasionally fuel. Not overnight.
Going back in September for 2 months ( best time of year ) and will insist if necessary for stamps but that can sometimes not be welcome.
NB: We are not Turkish but lived there many happy years and continue to keep our boat there in Çeşme Marina near Izmir, a great berth with full services by the way.
Chios has a very cost effective outhaul and storage service about 5 miles north of the main port, just fyi.
Regards from Lisbon, Olivier
I have visited Cesme marina often and I’m considering storing my American flagged sailboat there in the future. Currently I winter the boat at Olympic Marine in Lavrion, Greece. I would be interested in communicating with you about you’re experience in Cesme. Please email me at peterkaras36@yahoo.com
Anyone experienced in dealing with Greek authorities after an accident?
In the thunderstorms early July my boat capsized 180° near Chalkoutsi. Me and my dog were taken ashore by the port police, the capsized boat was later towed to the buoy off the Evoikos boatyard, where it stranded upside down in the next storm, streamlining the roof..
The capsize was benign compared to dealing with insurance, bank, authorities and the yard. I fetched my car and trailer
and paid all invoices presented, but the yard intends to block the boat ‘until the case is closed’, whenever that may be.
After three weeks the insurer send a surveyor (George Cottrel from EuropeMarine), who negotiated with yard and the tow.
The police released the boat after I signed a solemn declaration to take the boat out of Greece by road.
Big thanks to Francoise and Thierry from lepetitmondedetrolls.org for their kind support!
Learnings for me:
1. Inshore waters have their own dangers, beware thunderstorms near mountains.
2. Rescue gear: VHF, PLBs don’t remain waterproof very long. Try out Greek rockets, not easy to launch.
3. Have a waterproof metal box with spare smartphone and creditcard in your grab bag, you are lost without them!
4. Avoid Greek authorities, find a private tow. If authorities get involved, hire a lawyer. Once you lose tourist status you risk being treated like those refugees.
5. Have a list with local surveyor, tow services and lawyer.
Gythion has new power and water stations in the harbor. They require a card which is purchased at city hall between 9 and 1430. Please feel free to contact us should you be arriving after that time or leaving before 9 in the morning as we have a commercial charter boat in the harbor and have extra cards, hose lengths and power extension cords. We are permanent and would like to see more cruisers in Gythion. Capt Sheri and Pierros Thomakos, Mani Escapes +306947425177 http://www.mani-e-scapes.com
I read that Greece is requiring non EU boats that have not paid the VAT tax to carry a transit log that must be stamped in each port they visit. And failure to have the log stamped results in a fine. Is there a published list of cities the cruising log must be stamped in?
Greek ports are under attack from charter companies.
We are finding in many of the popular ports in the Cyclades that the best mooring on town quays are being blocked off with dinghy’s and lines put out to stop cruisers berthing. This is being done by charter company staff and skippers and often assisted by port authority staff. They tell cruisers to go away that you need a reservation, then when certain charter company boats arrive they are tripping over themselves taking lines.
We have witnessed port authority staff being abusive to cruisers when they are berthing where dinghy’s and lines have been put in the way, often tuning families away in bad weather only to help dock a charter company boat ten minutes later when they arrive.
Very often cruisers are told by port authority staff (Aggressively, I might add) that they have to leave the port for the whole of the weekend as the moorings are reserved for these charter companies, regardless of the weather.
The Greek charter skippers are all friendly with each other and the port staff, I believe they are working hand in hand to secure the best moorings for each other.
Parokia, Paros, IOS, Milo’s to name a few.
Catamarans are arriving from these companies in great numbers, packed with 8/10 guests on board, they are generally much more noisy than the usual cruisers and regularly arrive back on board at midnight, on with the loud music and party on these boats till 05.00 in the morning, their on holidays for a week and they don’t generally give a toss who they disturb.
Slowly but surely the cruiser is being pushed out of these Greek ports.
Greece needs to increase income from tourists, charter yachting has priority. Lucky us they only realise now, compared to other places Greece has plenty space. Eastern and northern Aegean islands don’t see many charter yachts. Downsizing to slip into small ports is another option.
I am curious about anyone with a non-EU flagged boat (and therefore not VAT-paid) having left Greece for another EU country. Our boat has been in Greece since 2019, but in the water for only some 220 days over that period. The authorities here have been very clear that as long as we hand in our Transit Log every time we haul out they stop the clock on the 18-month Termporary Importation, and we are free to stay as long as we like until we spent 18 months in the water. We are wondering if it is necessary to stop in a non-EU country on the way out of Greece to make sure that the country of our next port of call does not decide that, given the time spent in Greece, we are alreadty outside the rules on the Temporary Importation. Does anyone know what kind of exit document is handed to you as you leave Greece, if any? Does it mention the time spent there, time in the water, time since last launch? Thanks.
Chris Robbs of the Cruising Association says:
“The Greeks are very relaxed with the 18 month rule, and are actually happy to extend to 24 months as allowed by the Union Customs Code (UCC). The UCC does not specify any length of time out of territorial waters, and the Greeks are more than happy to allow you to sail out 6 if 12 miles, depending in what part of Greece you are, take a picture of you chart plotter, and return.”
Take a look at our EU page and the section on VAT – https://www.noonsite.com/cruising-resources/european-union/
Why not make a copy of your transit log before handing it in on departure from Greece, so you can demonstrate (should you need to) the history of your time in the water.
The new insurance requirements include pollution clause.
But, be very careful.
The port police issues fines for pollution, not payments of monies to clear/repair damage.
As a standard procedure, insurance companies do not repay fines, only recovery of damage costs. So you may be in a situation of being fined but unable to use your insurance policy, even if the pollution caused by you was not intentional and result of malfunction of boat’s system.
We have wintered DéDanann here on the Island of Aegina for a few years now.
We are back in the water in the port of Aegina. The port is busy with mostly charter boats and many of them are large catamarans taking up two and three berths which fill the ports very fast.
It’s very noticeable how few British cruisers or tourists about these past few years.
The new cruising tax Tepai must be paid before hitting the water, we have our boat yard do the application for us and up to this year took the document to any bank to pay. This year the banks have refused to take payment unless you hold an account with them. However, it can easily be paid at the post office.
It can also be done online if your good with this tech stuff.
The weather is just nice, sunny days, cool at night for sleeping.
Happy Days
Roditis Yachting report that the Corinth Canal will open late June, early July, for yacht crossing and for a period of 3-4 months. Keep updated at: https://www.roditis.eu/our-blog. Covid updates: https://www.roditis.eu/covid-measures-1
The offical administration/customer service (csd@aedik.gr) told me on the 28th March: Opening 5th July, closing: 31st Oct 2022
Thanks so much for the feedback – very helpful!
Our South African flagged yacht entered Greece in September 2019. We left her ashore and returned home in late September when we left of transit log with Customs officials. Due to Covid we haven’t been able to visit Greece since then but we plan to return in May and are wondering if anyone can please comment on how Greek Officials are handling the fact that we have technically outstayed our welcome ?
Thanks
Hi Mike, there was an EU statement about exceptional circumstances. The CA Greece Rep, recommends you say that the pandemic was exceptional circumstances for which you had no control, however, as you handed the documents in, time has stood still as the yacht was in bond so you may not even be questioned.
We arrived back to Aegina 20th August 2021 after twenty months away due to Covid.
The journey from Ireland?? was painless with little or no problems on arrival so long as you have a vaccination certificate and mask.
We are currently cruising the Saronic and Cyclades islands. We have never seen the Saronic so busy with lots and lots of charter boats in the ports. Aegina and Poros are particularly busy to jammed packed by late afternoon each day.
Whilst wearing of masks in shops etc is required, the Greeks are rgenerally relaxed about all this and there are not many if any cases of Covid about.
The weather has been hot these past weeks but starting to cool down a bit as we move through September.
I hear the situation in the Ionian is the same with ports jammed to capacity.
The local chandlery shops are doing great business with batteries and anti foul paints, dinghy and outboards etc,
Hi Tony, welcome back, we’ve missed your great reports! Good to hear you made it safely back to Greece and thanks for this useful feedback.
Entry to Greece from Preveza Port Authority, courtesy of Nicolas Charpy:
A PLF form must be completed and a ‘Maritime Declaration of Health’ You must also have one of the following:
– PCR Test of 72 hrs
– Certificate of Vaccination (as long as it has been accomplished at least 14 days ago)
– Certificate of Covid 19 disease.
If you do not have any of these when you arrive in Greece you must remain on board and have a rapid test, if positive you must remain on board for 10 days.
6 hrs before arrival you should inform the Port Authority of the health condition of all persons on board.
You will also be required to show the following: Yacht Registry, Insurance Policy, a Crew List, Tepai and a notebook in which you have recorded the daily temperatures of all on board.
Hi there, I’m trying to plan a week’s cruise out of Lavrion Marina in mid-September into some of the nearer Cyclades islands.
Any recommendations for a circular route including 3 or 4 must-see visits with good anchorages? NB. No overnight passages!
We have just received the following from Roditis Yachting:
ANNOUNCEMENT ON SEA BORDERS BETWEEN GREECE AND TURKEY
BORDERS WITH TURKEY ARE NOW OPEN FOR YACHT ARRIVALS & DEPARTURES WITH PASSENGERS AS OF 12/8 TO 19/8/21
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First entrance and arrival of the yacht in Greece is permitted only in the following ports :
Rhodes – Symi – Kos – Kavala
Myrina of Limnos – Mytilene – Kalymnos
Chios – Scala of Patmos
Samos ( Vathi and Pythagorio )
Agia Marina of Leros
HEALTH PROTOCOLS
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Notice prior to arrival must be given to the Port Treasury of the visiting port minimum 6 hours prior to arrival and all passengers or crew on board should have with them:
– A vaccination certificate issued by a certified authority.
If the passengers are not Vaccinated we need:
– A negative PCR COVID-19 test result from a laboratory; the test must be taken up to 72 hours before entry in Greece, or
– A negative antigen (rapid) result from a laboratory; the test must be taken up to 48 hours before entry, or
– A certificate of recovery from the SARS-CoV-2 virus infection issued by a public authority or a certified laboratory, or
– Proof that the traveller was tested positive with COVID-19 in the past 2 to 9 months. This can be proved either by presenting a positive PCR molecular or an antigen test result performed by an authorized laboratory or a medical certificate confirming that the holder was tested positive with SARS-CoV-2 virus infection, or
– The EU Digital Covid-19 Certificate or a Covid-19 Certificate from a third country, in either printed or electronic form, which includes information related to their vaccination, or the result of their PCR or rapid test taken before travelling, or the details about their Covid-19 infection.
NATIONALITIES
On board the yacht besides the crew members, passengers residents of EU Member States and Schengen associated countries (Andorra, Iceland, Lichtenstein, Norway, Switzerland, San Marino, Vatican, the Principality of Monaco), the USA, the UK, Serbia, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates, the Russian Federation, Israel, Canada, North Macedonia, Ukraine, China, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Belarus, Bahrain, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, Albania, Japan, Lebanon, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Jordan, Moldova, Brunei, Kosovo and Turkey may ENTER and visit Greece for pleasure, provided they can fulfill the general entry requirements.
Dimitris Kastis (Roditis Yachting)
+30 6937005447
As of today (August 13,2021) Greece is now open for private yachts sailing from Turkey. The “professional crew” requirement has been rescinded. This is the information I received this am from Roditis Yachting – the agent we are using for Greece.
Hi All,
First time here…
I am looking to winter my catamaran on the hard beginning November. I also need some interior carpentry/cabinet work done. I have narrowed down to Greece or Turkey. Looking for any comments and or suggestions. Quality of the work is important to me as is of course reasonable price. Thanks
Hello,
We cannot comment on carpentry work however we just had our boat painted in Marmaris, Turkey. We used ROTA (they are in Netsel Marina). The work was excellent and the price was very reasonable. We can highly recommend ROTA. I believe they do carpentry work as well but am not sure. Contact person:
Uluc. WhatsApp number: +90 545 465 0641
Hi folks,
Planning on summer cruising in the Med and considering buying a Catamaran this time. Does anyone know the average 11-13m berth WIDTH in the Med. Prout and Gemini make narrower, 5 & 4 meter respectively, models that may fit into a standard berth.
Cheers,
Jim
Hi Jim,
Keep in mind, once you get over a single berth width, most all marinas charge catamarans double price. It adds up in a hurry. We only enter marinas as little as possible
Dear fellow sailors, I am looking for suggestions for Corfu. We our charter begins in two weeks time and I ask for first hand experience where to anchor and what to see around Corfu. Hints and tips are welcome! Thanks in advance!
The operators of the Corinth Canal in Greece have advised that the canal will remain closed to marine traffic until the end of the summer 2021 season with a probable extension. Studies and restoration works are under way following a landslide in January this year.
After spending last year in Greece we went together Italy for maintenance and came back to Greece this month.
Because we were in international waters between Italy and Othoni we now have to get a transit log even though the boat has EU VAT paid status. ?
Can anyone offer ideas on how to stay 6 months in Greece with USA passport? Or better yet any possibility for residence permit in any eu country
HI Bob – this pages should help – https://www.noonsite.com/cruising-resources/european-union/ – and all associated news and reports (scroll down to bottom to see links). Also try the Med Cruisers Facebook page – alot of good advice there too.
Contact the Greek embassy in Washington. Long term visas are available (6 months).
How can I get a skippers license or competency certificate online? I’m in Greece I own a catamaran and have lots sail experiences
Again, the EU page (above) as info. on this.
I’m planning a non-stop voyage from France to Greece. Can anyone shed light on how an unvaccinated crew member who has been at sea for a week subsequent to a covid test at the port of departure will be treated on arrival?
Current rules can be found here – https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/formalities/#biosecurity-section. Situation is fluid and rules may well have changed by the time you get to Greece. Suggest you have a land-based helper keeping you informed with updates. Currently testing on arrival is possible in some ports. Suggest you maintain proof of passage time and demonstrate this on arrival to the authorities.
No problems entering Zakynthos with a PCR test taken day of departure (result collected via email en route) and nonstop 7 day sail. No test required on arrival. We used a local agent – very good value in the circumstances.
May 25, 2021 at 9:12 PM
Just in from the CA:
UK yachts don’t need TL for Greece
The Greek tax authority, the AADE, has agreed: “UK-flagged vessels moored or sailing in EU waters before the Transition Period ended (1.1.2021), regardless of where the taxes have been paid, retain their EU status for as long as they remain in [those waters].”
This has been its position for some time, but the AADE did not initially tell its Customs offices that, as a result, UK yachts will not have any customs procedures and do not require a Transit Log (TL), until they leave EU waters and return. Therefore, offices insisted incorrectly that UK yachts must have a TL to sail in EU waters. This matter is now supposedly corrected but incidents are still happening. If you have an issue on this with Port Authorities (Customs), insist that the office ring Georgia Tounta of the AADE VAT-Customs on 0030 210 698 7417 for correct advice.
The issue of returning from outside EU waters remains in dispute (Returned Goods Relief). If you leave EU waters you export your yacht (as for all VAT Goods) and temporarily lose EU Goods Status. On returning to Greece you should be able to check in to Customs and apply for “Relief from paying duty” under the exemption given in article 203 of the Union Customs Code (UCC). This is an automatic right and is not at the discretion of the local Customs officer. However, the AADE has not advised its offices of this and currently the issue is the subject of a formal complaint to the EU Commission. We are expecting results on this by June 10 and the CA website and forums will be updated accordingly.
Until this matter is settled yachts should accept whatever Transit Log is offered, to avoid Impounding of the yacht, and sort the matter out later, if necessary contacting the CA for help (if you are a member of course).
https://www.theca.org.uk/
Good Afternoon to everyone,
Currently we are moored at Port Ghalib Marina in Egypt. In a few days we will cross the Suez Canal end we would like getting to Crete by the end of May. Does anyone know the last procedures for yachts coming from extra EU area? Is the quarantine mandatory and if yes where we can do it as the Marina in Agios Nicholaos it’s full?
Thanks a lot for the help.
Luisa
P.S. we are all EU citizens
Good afternoon….
marina agios nikolaos its full now….but you can to do the paperwork…..in sitia….if you want help….tell me…
Thank you very much,
we have a complicate situation so we decided to clear in in Rhodes where there’s a good Agent.
Best regards
Luisa
Hi Y’all,
Buying excharter Bavaria 39 in Alimos Marina Athens on the 20th May 21.
I am exporting the boat to the UK. With present restrictions will it be possible to clear Greece??
Thanks
Hi Jim,
The latest info. we have can be found here: https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/formalities/#biosecurity-section
Permission to leave Greece will only be granted to yachts that are bound for a shipyard to get work done on their boat, or bound for home waters. There is a 5000 euro fine for yachts sailing in Greek waters without permission.
Suggest you ask same question on Med Cruisers Facebook Page – many there in Greece that may know more.
Do please let us know what you find out so we can add the info. to Noonsite.
Thanks
Having just paid, I can report current harbour mooring fees (on Preveza Town Quay) are 0.50 €/m/night +VAT for our ~14m sailing yacht moored stern to. Surcharges apply for alongside and for cats. Power and water are extra, metered, for which a fob is required.
I wanted to pay for a month but was told no, 15 nights maximum. They said it as “the law”, but to come back after the 15 days.
@Phil: Yes pay cruising tax only when in the water. You can pay the eTEPAI online in euros by bank transfer, citing the payment reference from the eTEPAI application (i.e. the eParavolo number). The IBAN is given in the eTEPAI FAQs document on the portal.
Hi Sue,
I’m planning to deliver a 40 ft cat from Volos back to Ireland starting mid April.
Just wondering if you have any recent info regarding stop over en route?
We’re thinking of making one stop or yet side of Corinth and on to Sicilly.
( we plan to carry rapid antigen tests with us… will that help re getting ashore?!)
Hi Charles, please review the biosecurity sections for each country you plan to stop at for the latest info. we have. See https://www.noonsite.com/news/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-special-procedures-being-introduced-in-ports-of-entry-worldwide/ for quick access to all the links. Most countries want tests from an authorised lab and don’t accept home tests, however, you can but try. With Italy, you may be able to get a test on arrival if your home kit isn’t accepted – however – if you can’t you’ll have to undergo quarantine. If it’s just a stop to re-supply without going ashore, then this can be achieved without being tested. Do let us know how you get on and how the official rules actually translate in the ports you stop at. Many places take yachts on a case-by-case basis. All the best with your trip.
Charles, today the rules have changed for Italy and you can’t get tested on arrival. If you are unable to provide test results taken 48hrs prior to arrival in Italy/Sardinia, you’ll have to self-isolate for 14 days. See full details here – https://www.noonsite.com/place/italy/formalities#biosecurity-section. As you can see, rules are changing all the time so it’s helpful to have someone at home who can keep an eye on the situation for you while you are on passage.
The Corinth Canal closed at the end of January 2021 due to a land slide. It is expected to be closed approx. 3 weeks.
I would like to inform you that Greek government has voted the law 4646/12-12-2019 that has raised for all the pleasure boats (included the sailing boats with Greek and EU or non EU flag) the tonnage tax. This tax, was based on the law num. 27/1975, and was asked to be payed from the Greek boats that were registered in the Greek registration (niologio). It was payed once a year and general was low (~40euro for 10m sailing boat)
According to the new law (4646/2019), the amount of the minimum tax that a pleasure boat has to pay yearly and was calculated using the tonnage of the boat, will be 1000euro from 1/1/2020. Bigger boats will pay much more.
As I wrote, boats with Greek, EU and not EU flags are included to the “new” tax.
We don’t have enough information about, how Greece will collect the tax from foreign boats.
The new taxation law is not 4646/2019 (that’s a law approved in 2019) but a new one regarding the taxation of boats/yachts/ships under greek flag (Greek Ship Taxation Regimes Amendments for 2020). It does not affect al all the yachts under EU-non greek flag.
The minimum tax is 200€ per year, but for the private boats a applies a factor x5, so every private boat under greek flag is paying at least 1000€ per year (or more if the tonnage is over 200GT).
Foreign yachts are affected only by the TEPAI.
We are a US flagged boat and were unable to receive an extension on the TI of our boat so we hired a Captain to sail her out of the EU (US citizens are banned from the EU) to Turkey. He is now in Rhodes, Greece and trying to check in so that he may check out of the EU. They are citing Greek Law 4256/14 and saying that our boat insurance is insufficient? I am trying to get the limits increased but wonder if anyone has had an issue with this law?
Thank you – M and M Dillard
I know this might be a bit late, but I recently joined. So, the minimum legal covers are per Law 4256/14:
1) Death – physical injury (per person EUR 50,000 and per incident EUR 500,000)
2) Material damage (third party) EUR 150,000
3) Marine pollution EUR 150,000
Hello everyone , now it is August 26 2020. My friend was told that for his sailboat Greece is still closed for entry from Turkish winter harbour. Is it the case . He has Schengen residence and owns this boat under Gibraltar flag. When this restriction is likely to be lifted?
Hi all,
I have my yacht in Aktio Marina boatyard and I am refitting it at the moment.
I was hoping to do some sailing this year however with all the recent problems with Coronavirus I have decided to leave it until next year as I still need to do some work.
Should I have registered it for the cruising tax or can I leave it until the boat is ready to lift in?
As I understand it a boat in a yard is deemed out of use.
Do I also need to be at my yacht in December prior to Brexit as proof of being there or will the yard contract be sufficient?
Regards
Phil.
S/Y Rhubie
SInce 01.07.20 is an new protocol for travelling into Greece (https://travel.gov.gr/#/):
Beginning July 1, 2020, the Greek government has determined how the country will welcome travelers, carry out the necessary diagnostic screening and keep everyone safe throughout the season.
The Passenger Locator Form (PLF) is a key element in the planning. As of July 9th 2020, all travelers must complete their PLF at least 24 hours before entering the country, providing detailed information on their point of departure, the duration of previous stays in other countries, and the address of their stay while in Greece. In case of multiple stays, they are required to provide the address for the first 24 hours at least.
Travelers will receive a confirmation email upon submission of the PLF.
Travelers will receive the PLF with their unique Quick Response (QR) code on the day of their scheduled arrival in Greece (at midnight) and will be notified via email (the QR code will be provided in a link in the confirmation email).
The PLF can also be found on the Visit Greece app and at travel.gov.gr.
It is strongly recommended that all visitors download the Visit Greece app (GDPR compliant) for free, prior their arrival in Greece.
I plan to sail to Greece and have been inquiring about the Passenger Locator form which needs to be filled in at least 24 hrs prior to entering Greece. As stated in the Bio security update posted on Noonsite on July 5th, 2020 it is not clear where to enter the information if one is traveling on a pleasure sailing vessel. I have called the local Greek consulate to see whether they could perhaps comment on the situation. Unfortunately no clear solution was given. In the meantime I looked through the ‘Protocol for Arrivals in Greece’ Frequently Asked Questions Travel Q&A section and found the following:
QUOTE
SEA
Arrivals by sea by ferry ships are allowed only in Patras, Corfu and Igoumenitsa ports.
Travelers must complete 24 hours before their arrival in Greece a Passenger Locator Factor (PLF) form and a confirmation email will be received upon its submission. An electronic or hard copy of the PLF confirmation should be presented to the designated crew members before embarkation onboard a ship at any Italian port. Travelers will also receive the PLF with a QR code on the day of their scheduled arrival in Greece (at midnight) and will be notified via email (the QR code will be provided in a link in the confirmation email).
No such restriction applies on yachting.
All visitors from air, land or sea, will be subject to random tests upon arrival. Upon being tested, travelers move to their final destination. In the event of a positive result, they will be contacted and placed on 14-day quarantine, with expenses covered by the Greek state.
UNQUOTE
Does ‘ No such restrictions apply to yachting’ mean we are exempt from filling in the PLF? Could this explain why there is no specific category for yachting?
Joseph Miller
According to latest update (31-5-20) from GOV.UK. Everyone arriving in Greece from abroad will be tested for coronavirus. You will be required to stay in Government-provided accommodation for the first 24 hours, until test results are available. If your test is negative, you will be asked to provide details of your accommodation, and will need to self-isolate there for the next 14 days. If your result is positive, you may be required to remain in Government-provided accommodation for a further 14 days. In both cases, self-isolation is mandatory, and the authorities will enforce it by prosecution and fines.
British nationals are not affected by the European Union’s measures to close EU borders to non-EU country nationals. If you’re a British national, you can still enter Greece, but you must comply with the Greek authorities’ advice.
Hi all,
I keep my boat in Greece all year round intending to use it more frequently when I retire in about 18 months time.
Can anyone tell me how Brexit will affect me and will I be able to keep my boat in Greece?
I have been reading the new updates and it talks about boats entering and leaving, getting a transit log etc. but I have not found anything regarding vessels permanently kept in Greece. I am a bit confused at the moment so any information would be very welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Phil Nichols
S/Y Rhubie.
Hi Phil, I recommend you join the Cruising Association (CA) in London. They have representatives in Greece that lobby the government and work really hard to get good conditions for UK sailors in Greece. They will have the latest and can give you all the details. Go to https://www.theca.org.uk/.
Hi Sue,
Many thanks for your reply and info.
Regards
Phil.
Be advised, as of Monday 24th private boats Currently based in Greece are free to move from port to port.
Hi, what about sailing OUT of Greece ?
For the time beeing, there is no possibility to sail yachts in and out of any harbour in Greece. It is expected, that these restrictions will end on May 25.
Greek Cruising Tax TEPAI registration and Application form guide is at https://www.aade.gr/dl_assets/etepai/etepai_app_usermanual_en.pdf
Vitually impossible to know how to complete the form without this manual.
Hi there,
are there somebody living aboard now in Mesolongi Marina? I would need to Contact him, when possible. Thanks, give me a call on info.ican47@gmail.com
Thanks in Advance
Michele
Hi All.
There is a lot of confusion about private boats being allowed to move from port to port or not?
My understanding having made some enquires from a Greek cruiser who understands what’s happening on the ground there, is, that all private boats currently in Greek ports or town quays can move from port to port. Social distancing applies of course.
This particular cruiser launched from his boatyard last Friday and moved to his marina in Pireaus.
I hope this is of some assistance.
Hi All.
Please ignore my last post about boats moving in Greece.
No sooner had I posted this that I received an update from the same source to advise the following as of today Thursday March 19th,
No further movements of private boats being allowed in Greek waters.
Apologies for any confusion caused.
Hi! Are any of you familiar with “Limenas Port Thassos” or “Marina Limenas Thassos?” We are looking to stay at a marina that has water and electric at the end of July for 1 week, while waiting for friends to join the boat. Another possibility would be “Kavala Marina/AISTER” on the mainland in Kavala. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!
Hi Holly, both “marinas” in Thassos have water and electricity – see https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/northern-greece/thasos/, and the new marina in Limenaria is pretty big so finding space should not be too difficult. Unfortunately I cannot find any contact details for this new marina, so it might benefit a visit in advance to scope it out. Please do pass on more details if/when you visit.
Suggest you try the Med Cruisers Facebook page to see if anyone has been to the new marina there.
Kavala may be a better bet, and you can contact them in advance for details as well – https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/northern-greece/kavala/
Boat Sharing & Peer-to-Peer Boat Charter
I was researching peer to peer charter today. I was looking for boat owners who want to share their boat, maybe because they want it to move or to earn a buck or two, or just because. I was a bit shocked by the current applications and or website who seem to offer peer to peer – direct boat charter from the owner. It seem they are far away from being handy and also the offers are mostly established charter bases rather than private people.
My question, do you have any experience with peer to peer charter and/or are you or do you know boats owner who like to share their boat? How would you find boats to deliver and to charter from fellow owners?
All the best and always fair winds.
Uwe
Hi Uwe,
There seem to be many websites now that offer “boat-sharing” models. Sailum is one of them (https://www.noonsite.com/sailum/). There are also a number of facebook pages (Women Who Sail is one) who have boat share/boat sitting sections.
Regards,
Sue
Hi, anyone tried to do the 2020 cruising tax yet? As of a few days ago the 2020 dates come up but none of the annual pay discounts are being applied 🙁
Hi, I have been speaking with Chris Robb at the Cruising Association and he has confirmed the following:
E-TEPAI
Several of our members have now done this, it was unblocked just before Christmas. Provided they answer the correct questions about being in a Greek port all year, they will get their discount if they mark every month. In theory, they should have done it before 31st December, but I guided someone through it yesterday.
You may also find the following points of interest with regards to the E-TEPAI:
BLOCKED ACCOUNTS:
Your account will be blocked if you have 11 failed attempts to access it. It is then not clear what you need to do. The answer is simple:
1. Go to the E-TEPAI Login
2. Enter your email address
3. Click on “Reset Password”
4. Await email response.
A) Your account is now unblocked – you don’t have to change the password
B) If you have forgotten your password, follow the instructions on the email to change the password
The most common problems is people forgetting passwords, and forgetting that the document number is in fact their Passport number.
PAYMENT:
When paying by bank transfer, you should just enter the 20 digit payment code. Users should note that they now have a block of numbers 5 or more long giving in excess of 25 digits. Just enter the first 20 digits.
Do not be helpful and add the name of the boat or anything else especially in the “Notes for beneficiary” when even a dash will be added to the reference number and the PAYMENT WILL FAIL AND BE RETURNED.
When a payment has successfully been made, the user will get an email back with the Application Print Out with the payment status amended. This is the receipt to show to the Port Police.
This final step may not yet be implemented as they are doing a number of unspecified changes.
Our thanks to the Cruising Association for clarifying these points.
Cyclades.
We have come out of Athens and cruising the islands presently. The meltimi has been blowing hard almost non stop for several weeks now, it starts at 5.00 am and blows through to 9.00 pm most days. This is not the place to be if you like easy cruising, it is however, great for those seeking adventure.
Astakos, is a nice port to spend time, not so congested as other Ionian ports. Good mooring stern to on the town quay lying to the anchor for 20 or more boats, free water and electricity provided by the town hall, no charge to stay in July.
Lots of good shopping and good taverna’s that are most reasonable and friendly.
Kassiopi, Corfu.
As of Wednesday 12th June this is no longer a free harbour. If your draft us shallow enough you can get on the left if there is space. Otherwise the other side is good if you have pre-booked (www.sammyyacht.com). However be careful of the rocks that stick out from the wall. For a 13m yacht on the left €26 in the right an extra 50% so €40! I got the impression that locals were none too happy either. No facilities for the yachty. Though lovely new water and electric points have been added round the harbour but you have to get a pre-paid card. Beyond all that, lovely little spot. If you don’t mind using a tender, go round the corner to one of the big bays, anchor for free and wander into town from the other side – little swell in the bays from passing speed boats/tripper boats.
We on our way from Levkas on a 44ft catamaran planning to find a mooring closer to Athens to leave the yacht from approx 23rd June till end of August (in the water) when we plan to return and then from the end of September on the hard till June 2020. Any suggestions ?? We from South Africa so euro/rand exchange rate very bad, we need affordable place, thanks Patrick
Good News from Messolonghi Marina. They have just officially re-opened as of June 14, 2019. We were the second boat to arrive in the marina after it’s 2 1/2 years closure. There are some boats on the pontoons and hard standing, but otherwise the place seems semi-deserted at this time. The office is operational and responds to VHF 69. The store and the chandlery are starting to re-open. The sanitary facilities and power and water on the pontoons are clean and functional. We are paying 400 Euros/month high season rates to store our 12.8 m sloop until mid-Sept.
Reed Erskine s/v Cayenne
With just one day to go until the grace period for boats in Greek waters expires, members of the CA have reported problems in Rhodes when attempting to file their ships papers to put their boat “out of use” and therefore exempt from the TEPAI. Our thanks to the CA for sharing this feedback with Noonsite. Greek cruising tax – filing boat papers with the authorities to get “out of use” status. Heads up for anyone whose boat is in the water but wants to file for “out of use” – the Port Police here in Rhodes have taken the position that the official grace period until May 18th only applies to PAYING the tax, not to filing your papers for an exemption if you are not using your boat.
Despite the fact we have an official statement from the boatyard where we are moored that the boat has been immobile in the water for 18 months (we’re doing a refit), when we tried to file our papers today the port police insisted we pay the tax for this month by tomorrow or face penalties of EUR1000 or more. This was confirmed by two separate agencies here with respect to other immobile boats trying to file their papers this week.
Hopefully, it’s only the Rhodes PP who are taking this position but thought it might be of use to let others know what the situation is here…
May 10th in Itea – TEPAI payment We have a Canadian flagged vessel. We therefore cannot use the website. We went to the custom office with the form as provided in the tax regulation. I printed and filled the form beforehand. They knew about the new tax, took my money and issued the receipt. The form is in the following document on page 14,15:
ΠΟΛ.1210 (ΦΕΚ Β’ 5170/16.11.2018)
available on this link: https://www.aade.gr/polites/etepai The custom office itself did not have the form. The documents they asked for are: 1) Transit Log 2) Passport 3) Boat registration 4) Tepai form They did not have the means to accept debit cards or credit cards, I had to pay cash. I got an official receipt and my form back with the appropriate signatures and stamps.
The staff was pleasant and helpful.
Went to Port Police after to get our Transit Log stamped. They did not make a point of asking for proof of payment of Tepai.
Thank you very much for this useful info. I have added details of the online form, with a link, to our Greek Fees section.
6th May 2019
We have just purchased an Australian registered yacht on the hard in Corfu. We are also Australian.
I cannot make head nor tail of what I need – i.e. Dekpa yes/no? TRansit log yes/no. What papers do I need from previous owner in relation to permits etc.
Look forward to you clearing the smoke for me
take care
Rick
Hi Rick.
Greek admin is not making life easy for us cruisers.
You’ll need the DEKPA for sure. Non-EU boats also need the transit log (shows when you first entered and exited european waters). If the boat has been in the EU for more than 18 months you’ll need a VAT proof (That the previous owner has paid a European VAT).
As of May 9th 2019, you’ll allegedly need the carry proof that the latest scam tax (TEPAI) has been paid (This is somewhat unclear though). If and when applicable, it should allegedly be paid before launch via a complicated greek website that (a) is incomprehensible and ( b) randomly broken. (fee valid until each end of the month and no monthly pro-rata discounts are available).
I spoke to the greek coast guards in Lefkada about 2 weeks ago when I went to renew my DEKPA and they were completely clueless about the TEPAI. My recommendation is not to launch until you are sure about the TEPAI or launch and leave the greek waters right away until it’s sorted.
Hi Rick, See https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/formalities/ for all the details.
As a non-EU yacht, it will not have a DEKPA (this is for EU boats only).
The yacht will have a Transit Log, which must be surrendered to Customs on leaving Greek waters, or, when wintering the boat in Greece and leaving it empty. Ask the previous owners about this. Likely the boat has been bonded so as to extend the Transit Log by 6 months, again, ask the previous owners.
All the info. on paperwork and documents you need for Greece are at the above link.
BTW – the Cruising Association are recommending yacht owners wait a few weeks before worrying about the new tax, at least until the Greek Government have got a functioning payment system. There are currently no fines for late payment. See Related news for more info. https://www.noonsite.com/place/greece/related-news/
We are US flagged in Greece but have Pantaenius NY, must be different coverage. Brexit?
We are a canadian resident/flagged sailboat ashore in Corfu. Got same notice from Pantaenius Monaco at renewal last year. Pantaenius America (NY office) will provide a quote if you contact them.
There are other possibilities out there. We are in the process of completing new survey for new carrier.
More if needed via laplante01@hotmail.com
I have a US flagged boat in Greece and my insurance carrier, Pantaenius UK recently informed me that they can no longer provide coverage for not EU boats in Greece. Can anyone recommend a company that can provide me with coverage?
Feb 04, 2019 09:12 PM
I was 3 days late with the DEKPA stamp in Kos summer 2018, and had to pay 500€ in penalty. No negotiations possible. Furthermore, this happened on a Friday and I had to stay on the island during the whole weekend until the bank opened Monday.
Reported by Joerg Esdorn Re. Transit Logs:
In 9 months of cruising in Greece, I have not found a single port police office that follows the rules you are publishing.
I have been told consistently that getting the stamp from the port police is required and failure to do so can result in heavy penalties.
I have spoken with senior officers who were obviously smart and spoke perfect English, who have confirmed this. When I asked for an English language piece of paper that outlines the rules.
I was told that it does not exist. I have also spoken to other Americans who seemed to have the same understanding of the rules.
Cruising updates of the Peloponnese from Cristopher Slaney.
Nisos Stamfani – the small island south of Zakynthos. Very pleasant anchorage in settled weather. The cruising guide mentions the island is uninhabited with a deserted monastery.
But in June 2018 there was a custodian living close by the impressive monastery buildings and a fast launch coming and going daily from the mainland. Kardamyli – watch out for fishing nets laid across the anchorage.
Karovastasi – large bay south of Kardamyli. Pilot book states yachts sometimes tie up alongside the simple jetty. We did and got woken up just before daybreak by a returning fishing boat.
It’s his jetty! Diros – bay south of Karovastasi with interesting cave system to visit. The anchorage is only viable in very settled weather and there is often a two or even their hour wait for the guided boat tour of the caves.
Porto Kagio – never fails to disappoint. Well protected anchorage and off the beaten track. Plitra – small village of the eastern side of the bay which is dominated by Githio. Great place to spend a few days.
Go stern-to on the inside of the breakwater while taking care to avoid the permanent fishing boat moorings. Local boat owners very accommodating. Single water tap on the breakwater, several bars and simple eating places on shore. Pleasant walks through the olive groves north of the village.
We had the same from the Port police in Korfu, however, the Customs lady took the DEKPA from us anyways, so we have to buy a new one on entry again…
There seems to be some confusion here between DEKPA and Cruising Log. A DEKPA, which was revised in 2018 and then only issued when a fee of €50 had been paid at a tax office, the older version becoming void, is for EU boats and needs to be renewed either on or before the anniversary of its issue or last renewal, otherwise you pay again. A Transit Log is for all other vessels and it is technically to allow a non
VAT paid boat to cruise Greek waters. Officially you should check in to every harbour you visit’s Port Police, and GET IT STAMPED, although many will not do so. It lasts for three years and will need to be surrendered, at a “Port of Exit” when you leave Greek waters.
When we departed from Greece, we were told by the port police that if we returned within 12 months then our Dekpa will still be valid. Otherwise, you would need to purchase another one. The Dekap was about 50 euros. Irenka, Mothershipadrift.
New scam in Greece:
On entering a harbour some random guy ‘helps you in’ i.e. takes your lines. Later you are presented with a bill for at least euro10 or more commonly 1euro per boat metre.
I haven’t asked for help and don’t need it but we yachties often volunteer and help each other. I was charged euro 12 for the guy taking two lines. The receipt he offered was a joke – something from a stationer.
I demanded a tax receipt (the rule in Greece is now no tax receipt = no pay). He became very abusive and aggressive. Later the port authority came along with an itemised tax receipt which I paid. But I am sure they were involved because they take a cut.
In SIMI near Rhodes, the mooring fee of 7.50 was given to me along with a bill for 10 euro by the same official.
You can demand a tax receipt (one with the VAT itemised) before paying – but be prepared for hassle and even abuse. OR you can refuse any assistance and deal with your own lines.
I am complaining to the Ministry for Tourism and urge any other victims to do the same. This is such a shame as there is a camaraderie amongst yachties taking each other’s lines and generally helping each other.
Now if a yachtie tries to help he/she is sworn at by these guys who see their scam being spoiled. They often wear a tee shirt with ‘Mooring Man’ – SIMI, or ‘Mooring Services’ – Kalymnos.
Khalki is also a problem and there may be others. Best to take your own lines. Don’t let this scam spoil your trip.
Posted on behalf of Mark & Lisa Powell
A warning to non-EU cruisers in the Med.
We would like to pass on our experience yesterday with French customs. As the website correctly states, non-EU registered boats may remain in EU waters for 18 months before payment of VAT is required.
We entered the EU last July, after crossing the Atlantic in May and then spending some time in Portugal and “resetting the clock” in Gibraltar in July. Therefore, the boat could stay in the EU until Jan 2017 without paying VAT.
However, before returning the US for the winter, we obtained a “Precinto” (6-month customs bond) in Spain. This basically put the boat in bond while we went back to the U.S. for 6 months. Our understanding was that this Precinto would stop the Temporary Importation (TI) clock for 6 months, effectively extending our time to 24 months in EU waters before VAT payment is required.
Yesterday, while motoring along the south coast of France (near Bandol/Toulon), we were approached and boarded by French customs. Because out boat has only been in EU waters for since last July (13.5 months), they were very cordial and we had no problems.
We also showed them our Precinto from Spain. They were completely unfamiliar with this document. I also showed them the paragraph in the IMRAY cruising guide describing the customs bond and 6-month extension.
In no uncertain terms, they told us that France does not provide such an extension and that they would not recognize or honor this Precinto from Spain. They kindly suggested that we sail to Tunisia for a day to “reset the clock” before our 18-month deadline in Jan 2017.
Reported by SY Funny Girl – September 2016:
Porto Kaio (Kayio) – Gulf of Lakonika, Southern Ionian
A nice natural harbour, but with westerly winds of 18 knots there are heavy gusts into the bay.
We anchored the most westerly we could, very close to the beach, good holding in places but not everywhere. There is a little floating pontoon – place for 2 or 3 yachts.
When Scirocco winds are blowing hard from Africa (we experienced 50+ knots winds off southwestern Crete), none of the bays from Ak.
Lithinon all the way to the Southeastern-most point of Crete, including Lerapetra which is promoted as a sheltered anchorage, will offer calm water, and the swell will be big and rough.
Car Rental in Greece. Be aware that in Greece, unlike in most other Mediterranean countries, they want to see an international drivers license, which you cannot get online instantly.
The larger agencies will not rent you a car without this. In Chios Greece (the large island off Cesme Turkey), despite having a pre-paid online car rental reservation, the agent could not give us the car. We walked down the street to a local agency who did rent to us without a problem.
Further feedback from Peter of SY Funny Girl:
Today (30th September) I had a nice conversation with a port police officer.
He told me that there are no new Dekpa forms because there is coming a new form next year.
Everybody should pay for that new form as the existing ones become obsolete.
He could not tell me about the cost etc., but he had phoned with his office in Athens after running out of Dekpa forms.
The explanation of this, higher level, office in Athens gave him this information.
Update from Peter Pelo from Poros – 6 November, 2016:
About DEKPA
A policeman told me there was a governmental communication, in the Gazette of 26th of September this year, about the DEKPA.
From what I understand, the DEKPA forms have been renewed and will now cost 50€.
Another thing I heard was that all old DEKPAs will lose their validity at the end of August 2017.
We have checked with our contacts in Greece whether the shortage of DEKPA forms indicate that the regulations have changed. It appears not.
He suggested the best solution was to have a signed note added to your Crew list and to have a Customs office issue you with the correct form when you find one which has any available.
He said he has not heard of any problems arising from this solution.
Presumably, they are all aware of the shortage.
Reported by Dutch Sailing yacht “Funny Girl”:
I went to the port police in Preveza (Ionian) last Sunday, friendly people there, “we are sorry Sir, we have no DEKPA forms anymore!”
My question: when will they come? Answer – no idea, maybe never!!
But I insisted for a paper that I was there and wanted some proof because if the police or so catch you without a DEKPA it can be a high fine.
So I get a paper where it is mentioned that I was in the police station asking for a DEKPA, plus a nice stamp from the Preveza Port Police office.
At my request, the lady called to all nearby police stations, Corfu, Lefkas, and Gouvia marina, result: they all have no forms any more.
But with the paper, she gave me I can sail around in Greece and do not need stamps because there is no space for it on the paper.
This all cost no money.!
Posted on behalf of MY LeeZe (who posted this elsewhere on the site):
We just spent the last 3 months cruising the NW Aegean. When we checked at Alexandroupolis, They did not charge for the transit log (we think that was a mistake) but they did charge 15 Euros to process our entry.
Our passports were stamped. We checked OUT in Mytilini (we do not recommend… see other entry) and they stamped our passports and transit log and we left. If you are stuck in Greece after your visa expires, and cannot leave because of weather.
Check out on day 90 and stay on board until you can leave. The Greek authorities in Mytilini and Myrina both told us that is authorized and there is no fine. Mytilini will probably move you to the Customs dock though.
Posted on behalf of Bruce Hops – SY Twins
Today, Monday 31st. Aug., we arrived in Vathi/Meganisi. The Marinero there indicated to us where to tie up. A minute later we were told that it was a private marina and that a lot of boats were expected, hence we should move to the old port at the far end.
According to Rod Heikell’s guidebook, we should be welcome there – figure it out…
The said “old port” has an easy access and good holding, but the water there is filthy.
Practically everything floats around and falling in would be a horror. The electrics are not operative and there is water at one end only.
It is known that diesel distributed in Greece (probably also abroad) is allowed to contain up to approx 15% of biodiesel. I personally use apart from some additives the premium diesel versions that contain max 5% of biodiesel. Of course, I mind using fresh diesel.
Posted on behalf of SY Twins:
We have been cruising the Ionian Islands & the Peloponnese for the last six years. Obviously, we often use the engine on our GibSea 31. The diesel in this area seems to be only biodiesel or mixed diesel at best.
Many boat owners have to get their tanks cleaned out and the tubing also, as the diesel deteriorates and creates a mass, blocking the fuel from reaching the injectors.
Left longer in the tank and filters, it eventually takes the aspect of treacle. The problems encountered with engines stuttering and falling silent are very unpleasant and sometimes dangerous.
We welcome any feedback from cruisers who might have a solution to this problem. B.T.W. none of the additives ever made a difference – just in the wallet!
Bruce
S/Y Twins
I would like to inform all the people that are interested to visit Greece by sailing that the new tax system that was about to be applied -which was very… cruel- finally will not…
Also, some things that were opposite to European Law, like the duration of staying in EU waters -vessels with no EU registration and not VAT paid- is about to change soon…
So visit Greece with no any hesitation…
Non-EU cruising boats only get 6 months cruising in Greece now in every 12 months. The good news is that the transit log rules state that if your boat is “laid up for the winter” (in other words, in a marina or boatyard and vacated and not active), this time does not count towards the 6 months.
Be sure to hand in your transit log to Customs when leaving your boat for the winter, and keep marina or boatyard receipts to prove that you were not on board.
If however, you remained on board over the winter, it is very likely you will be penalized. Official fees are 88€ for out of the deadline exportation plus 14€ for each day you have stayed in Greek waters after the 6-month deadline.
Good luck!
Wdragon sent us an update:
Thanks for the advice. I eventually “settled” at Samos for an amount or 325 euro !! New log and penalties included. They started off with a penalty of some 995 euro – 65 days at 14euro/day plus 85euro +
Eventually, I had to sign letters of apology, etc… All in Greek so I hope it’s all legal and then they reduced it to 325.
In future one needs to hand the log in at the nearest customs office for safekeeping and to prove that you are not using the yacht, so one could in actual fact “stretch” your 6 months log over a year or more should you not be sailing.
We entered Greece in Sept 2014 on our Non-EU registered yacht and us from South Africa. The 6 months cruising permit expired in March 2015 and now we are led to believe that we will not be able to extend our stay?
And even more worrying is the mention of penalties! Any idea of the amount of these penalties and what I should do?
We spent two months cruising the Ionian, and waters around Athens this 2014 summer. We found some excellent service providers, engineers, electricians etc who were both competent and interested in the customer.
Our experience with marina staff and management, however, left much to be desired. Overall, imagine you were in Africa with a few brilliant spots in between.
The Greek waters remain outstanding sailing/cruising grounds on many levels but, generally, the local industry is completely uninterested in the customer. This is sad.
Posted on behalf of Bruce Hops:
We are at present in Galaxidhi and have discovered that the DEKPA has been (re) introduced for all boats above 7 meters. The 10-meter rule has been cancelled. We sail a 31ft. sloop – DEKPA price €29,35. The port seems much more busy than in the past.
Re. the Stephanielee posting above and payment of a 945 euro tax.
Similar incidents reported this year have shown that the boat had paid a backlog of non-EU boat cruising tax (old style). That tax will be replaced by the new tax as and when it is introduced.
The Ministry of Maritime has still not decided when they are going to start enforcing the new cruising tax. Keep up to date on this new tax at http://www.cruising.org.uk/news/greektax
Posted on behalf of SY Funny Girl: 12 June, 2014
We are back at our yacht (Funny Girl), for the summer in Greece. We had our boat wintering at Aktio marina, very close to Preveza, at their dry standing. It is, for us, a very good place, also you can sand your boat etc. and every boat has his own electricity and water connection.
Hauling in and out of the water goes quick and professional and at the time you want. Then we went to the port authority, we get a friendly explanation that our insurance needs to be updated to the latest Greek insurance law (Greek law 4256/14).
The lady officer let us go but we had to promise that we should contact our insurance company about this. The lady also told us that maybe another port station could make (more) trouble about this.
Then the famous DEPKA form, she gave us two stamps, one for the fact that we landed in the water this Tuesday and another one with a validity for a whole year, and……. we have for this whole year never to go to a port police station or other authorities.
At my question what to pay, she said: “you do not have to pay anything”. The next question from me was..no tax for boats?? she replies “no NOTHING”.
This all was in a friendly atmosphere.
Peter Terhaar
sy / Funny Girl
Jeanneau Sun Oddysey (Dutch flag)
On behalf of Stephanielee;
We received a receipt for the 945 euros. We are 13.1 metres and we entered Greece May 15th 2013. The boat has been out of the water for the past 10 months.
The law has been changed since 2012. First of all the invoice should be given by the Customs office since the flag in non an EU country. If you had stayed in Greece for the last 9 months and you have paid the tax then you don’t pay a new tax.
Can you please tell me the ship’s length in order to find out the right amount of money you have to pay? And furthermore, I need to know when you entered the Hellenic seas for the first time.
Thanks
We are an Australian registered yacht and entered Sami in May 2013. We wintered the boat in Levkas and on returning in May 2014 we went to collect our transit log at the Port office.
They required us to pay the cruising tax of 945 euros. We paid this in cash at the local tax office. I think this is for the past 6 months and the next 6 months.
I am not entirely clear exactly which period we have paid for. So it seems it is a requirement depending on where you are and at what office you go into! Stephanie James
Posted on behalf of Michael Lutz – Catamaran Swanie
Many cruisers have heard of the new Greek Cruising Permit for non-EU citizens. For our boat, it would have cost about 400 Euros for 3 months.
We just entered Greece the end of April, 2014 and no mention was made of this permit. Remember that every port of entry and every officer is different, but clearly, this requirement is not uniformly enforced at this time.
April 2014.
We were launched on Tuesday 1st April from Cleopatra MArina.
We visited the Port Police as required. Our papers were duly inspected and stamped, end of story.
No money was requested or changed hands.
It would seem that this CRUISING TAX that we have all spent the winter worrying about is not going to happen this year, if at all.
The problem seems t be that it is uncontrollable and unenforceable at the moment.
The rumour is that the Port Police have refused to become involved with collection.
This is our personal experience so far and is also confirmed by talking to numerous locals who are like us not in favour of this ill thought out scheme.
Ray & Mandy
SY Josephine.
Levkada
Note that as US citizens, you are only permitted to stay in the whole of the Schengen Area (which includes Greece) for a total of 90 days in a six month period. As you discovered, over-stays incur substantial penalties and will also affect any subsequent visit to a Schengen Area country.
A non-EU boat can remain in the EU for 18 months before having to leave (or officially import the boat). A short, documented visit to a non-EU country will ‘re-set the clock’ for another 18 months.
The 6 months referred to by the Greek Customs official, is the initial Transit Document (log/cruising permit) issued at the first port of entry and only applies to Greece. It is extendable to 18 months.
The Noonsite Team
We entered Greece on our boat at Samos in 2013 and got our 90-day visas for US citizens. But the customs official was explicit that we now had 6 months in Greece.
So we stayed for 4 months and ran into trouble in Mitilini on Lesvos when checking out. They said we overstayed for one month and the fine was 600 Euros per person, paid then or when we next re-entered Greece in the next four years.
We suspect the customs official might have been referring to the boat having 6 months, but we are not sure. This was a bittersweet ending to a grand circumnavigation of the northern Aegean Sea.
Michael A. Lutz